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questions. >> about 50. john mccain is a man with many, many questions. john mccain is a man with many questions and a man in desperate need to some answers to those questions or at least he just likes to say that over and over again on television. there is a strange thing about all of senator mccain's questions, though. the answers to his questions appear to be readily available, known to everybody in the country who cares about this matter, september for john mccain. here is what i mean. yesterday, senator mccain went on fox news to try to continue to advance his theory of a massive white house cover-up of the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. senator mccain has been advancing this cover-up theory demanding answers. he appears to be tuning out those answers when they are provided to him. it is getting weirder and weirder over time. here, watch. >> who changed the talking points that were used by ambassador rice? that is a question senator mccain that we have the answer to. the intelligence agencies acknowledged last week that they were the ones that changed the talking points
if they want to confirm rice. republicans stall worth john mccain and lindsey mccain have come out strongly against her citing the benghazi attacks and her remarks. today, moderate republican susan collins indicated that she might feel similarly. collins and republican senator bob corker had a 75 minute meeting with rice and afterward they still don't sound convinced. >> i still have many questions that remain unanswered. >> there's a handful of people that the president surrounds himself with that all of us hold to a very different level, and the secretary of state no doubt is one of those. we want someone of independence. >> well, president obama and secretary clinton both rushed to her defense. >> i couldn't be prouder of the job she has done. >> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations and of course, this decision about my successor is up to the president but i'm very happy he has the opportunity with a second term to make a decision. >> but they're not just going to have to convince props even some democrats were reluctant to overtly support her. jon test
secretary of state. she's not qualified. >> jon: that's senator john mccain continuing his seven year quest to negate every good thing he'd ever done prior to that. (laughter) this time leading the charge to preempt as an of now hypothetical obama nomination for secretary of state to replace hillary clinton. why? because five days after the benghazi attacks, susan rice went on the sunday talk shows and said this: . >> the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. that what happened initially was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in cairo as a consequence of the video. >> jon: (whit perking) we know that that's wrong now. and we now know many in the obama administration knew immediately that that statement was wrong. that the attackers were not angry film critics. (laughter) but al qaeda or one of al qaeda's able a. teams, the ansar al-sharia mud hens. (laughter) so susan rice met yesterday with senators mccain, graham and ayotte to clear the air. how did that go? >> ambassador rice i think does not do justice to the realit
to this in 2008 i thought john mccain waged a terrible campaign. i thought he didn't expose the challenger barack obama. i thought he was afraid and intimidated by him. i think i was wrong about that. i don't think john mccain is a guy that backs down and i think i was wrong but i kept questioning why don't you bring it to him. bring it to him. here is a guy who voted president, no accomplish. s in the senate. nothing on his resume out of the ordinary. just let him have it and he wouldn't. the last four years the only leader i have seen in america and mccain goes out of the ideology. he goes against his own party when he feels it is mccain. i mean, mccain is the guy that wants the truth about libya. mccain is the guy who wants to solve the immigration problem. mccain is the guy. i think mccain is the best leader in the country right now. and mccain should be man of the year. go ahead, powers. >> i don't really see that he has worked across party lines with other people. by your own standard what's his major accomplishment? >> he has brought to light a lot of corruption. has introduced legislation
will exists. republican senator john mccain for one says moving the detainees to the united states is not such a good idea. >>> i have great ob jeks to it. i think it would be basically insertion of authority that is clearly not with violation of the existing laws. >>> while senator fine stein talked about cost savings involving kwguantanamo. what do you do with the detainees? the president ordered the closure of gaun tan me b-- guantanamo bay almost four years ago. >>> let's head over to janice dean. she is here with the first degree weather update. >> it is cool out there but we have the coldest spot of the map 20 in maine, 23 in minneapolis. warmest spot los angeles. we are expecting a warm-up across the plains. our alaska forecast ann bailey said we need more alaska. love for alaska. current temperatures minus 28 in fairbanks. it's chilly. satellite radar imagery across the west. we could see 6-10 even 12 inches of rainfall and wind gusts in excess of 70 miles per hour especially across the mountainous regions. this is an area we watch through out the weekend as the rain contin
's just a simple question about john mccain and lindsey graham and john mccain and lindsey graham, do you think they are crazy and you can answer yes or maybe. >> what i believe is that susan rice is an incredible person with a great deal of intelligence and integrity and n ought to be taken r for her word. i think it's really unfortunate for her. >> i don't think senators are crazy in my experience, so i've been theorizing this is about opening up the secretary of state job for john kerry, so if they then reopen a massachusetts senate seat r for scott brown. is that your sense of the game that's being played? >> i have no idea. you are much more mcvalue yan thinking than am. >>> coming up, we'll find out about ari melber and guess who's coming to dinner? mitt romney's last chance to get into the white house is coming up. >>> what could they have to talk about? maybe they can reminisce about their days at harvard law coschl where the president was president of the law review and mitt romney wasn't. mitt romney's trip to the white house tomorrow where barack obama is president and mitt rom
piece of senate business, this oddity of susan rice. it's just a simple question about john mccain and lindsey graham and john mccain and lindsey graham, do you think they are crazy and you can answer yes or maybe. >> what i believe is that susan rice is an incredible person with a great deal of intelligence and integrity and ought to be taken for her word. i think it's really unfortunate for her. >> i don't think senators are crazy in my experience, so i've been theorizing this is about opening up the secretary of state job for john kerry, so if they then reopen a massachusetts senate seat r for scott brown. is that your sense of the game that's being played? >> i have no idea. you are much more mcvavalian thinking than 1 am. >>> coming up, we'll find out about ari melber and guess who's coming to dinner? mitt romney's last chance to get into the white house is coming up. [ male announcer ] we all make bad decisions. like say, gas station sushi. cheap is good. and sushi, good. but cheap sushi, not so good. it's like that super-low rate on not enough car insurance. pretty sketchy.
. and senator john mccain is here, met with susan rice, and asked her why she went on the sunday shows instead of secretary of state hillary clinton. wait till you hear the reason why. plus, are you willing to get really, really rich? the $500 million powerball is minutes away. and you could be the winner. stay tuned. >> greta: new fireworks in a hollywood custody fight turned custody brawl. actress halle berry's battle with her ex over their 4-year-old heating up and turning violent. berry's ex-boyfriend and her fiance getting into a brutal, ugly fistfight on thanksgiving day. the pictures prove just how brutal it got. now berry's ex could face criminal charges. ken baker is live in l.a. with the latest. ken, what in the world happened on thanksgiving day? >> well, we're used to ugly custody battles in hollywood. it happens all the time. but this really did take a violent turn. it was on thanksgiving morning when halle berry's ex, her ex-boyfriend, gabriel aubrey, the father of their 4-year-old daughter nayla, had to return their daughter back to halle berry in the wh hollywood hillsr the hol
years ago and politics can be personal. in the 2008 campaign, she made fun of john mccain. for wearing a flap jacket on a baghdad walking tour, while claiming iraq was safer and tonight, hillary clinton praised rice. still, some democrats argue nominating rice would prolong the benghazi controversy, while john kerry could be easily confirmed. and tonight other officials indicate a republican, former senator, chuck hagel, is also being vetted for a job >>> and also in washington tonight, the gop is dealing with the issue of optics and diversity in politics, getting a lot of coverage of the congressional committee chair selected thus far for the next congress. they are all white males, the leadership points out they were all selected for a reason, including seniority. the democrats point out on their side, white men are the minority among house democratic members, and now what has become a giant sector of the economy all by itself. the powerball drawing, the jackpot is now $550 million and counting. ticket sales are brisk. many are in the game and hoping. nbc's stephanie gosk has more. >
as secretary of state. susan collins, lindsey graham and john mccain all voted to confirm condoleezza rice. who would support as the next secretary of state? >> i think john kerry would be a great appointment. >> if he is nominated and confirmed, it would wave the pay for a special election. democrats aren't worried. the president is not backing down from his support for the ambassador. >> thank you so much, guys. susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she has done. [ applause ] >> let's bring in karen finney, msnbc political analyst and former communications director for the dnc. is this a communications problem with the american people. now, it is susan collins and bob corker. they are in on the frey to smear susan rice. >> i want to take one step back on this 1998 business susan collins was talking about. if we really truly want to go there, let's remember that those attacks in 1997 were when osama bin laden came to the floor and we had a clear sense of what he was about and attempting to do. if we are going to go there, let's talk about the massive intelligence failure
personalizes it with me. lou: what about those folks like senator john mccain, senator lindsay gramm, senator chambliss the list goes on. i mean -- >> it doesn't go on. it does not go on. here's the good news. all the people who last week and said we might raise taxes under certain circumstances with the same people who said that two years ago. and every news media outlet in the country has said the last week, would you like to be famous? would you like to be called important and influential? come to our tv station and announced you areefor tax increases and we will tell everyone you are important and influential. they have had no takers, for crying out loud. all of the guys for two years have said we might raise taxes are still there. how do you think these centers like being called harry reads favor republican senators? not the way to get reelected. lou: i get that. the list does go on. he said today in articulating the idea that going with the obama plan was an interesting tactic. you must let the congressman a great deal because, as you know, the white house has seized upon that. they're
story over on the hill, where the day after john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte tried to drive a stake through rice's nomination chances, susan colins and bob corker rose up out of the ground to sink they're teeth into her. "the washington post" today reports a white house official and democratic aides say they think rice could win senate confirmation from the top diplomatic job if obama nominated her. however the piece note her confirmation could come at a high political cost as lawmakers negotiate a deal on taxes and entitlement reform. and nbc news reports the president has yet to make up his mind over whether he will select rice or massachusetts senator, john kerry. but they say the clock is ticking and a nominee might be announced as early as next week. wow. that's -- i mean that's a tease, huh? but here's the question. here's my question. ryan, i will ask you this first. are republicans going to spend the political capital they must to dead the susan rice nomination? i'll read from the hilling privately come republicans prefer to avoid a bitter political fight over rice,
. remember the president hosted a 2009 dinner in john mccain's honor. though that didn't stop mccain from becoming a fierce critic, it was the right thing to do. it's a little different because romney is the first losing nominee since michael due kas cac kiss in 1988 who has not gone back to washington for a job even temporarily which forced the logistics to be more intentional. they eat meat one-on-one at the private dining room at the bhous, no cameras, no staff. the president's spokesman yesterday was very careful to manage expectations. >> is governor romney here tomorrow in some kind of cabinet level position, some kind of audition for that position? >> no, no. >> romney will also meet with his running mate congressman paul ryan for the first time since the election. if cameras catch it, it's likely it might happen somewhere on capitol hill. we've been told it will be held in a private place, not in the u.s. capitol, not in one of the buildings. cameras did capture governor romney going to disney. he'll have office space at solo mere, the firm co-founded by his son tag. he raised a r
hostage again. >>> and what's really behind john mccain's relentless and baseless attack on susan rice? former governor of new mexico and ambassador to the u.n., bill richardson, joins us live. >>> plus, remember this guy with the romney tattoo? he might just be the smartest man in the republican party today. >>> and we'll tell you what joe biden bought at costco today. you'll love this video. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >>> this is interesting. president obama is going to have lunch with mitt romney and you thought you had an awkward meal with your family on thanks giving. what i don't get is he said nobody should get a free lunch and now he's going to the white house to have a free lunch. [ male announcer ] with 160 more miles per tank, the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪ guts. glory. ram. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] while you're getting ready for the holidays, we're getting ready for you. tis the season. for food, for family, and
john mccain for wearing a flak jacket on a baghdad walking tour while claiming iraq was safer. >> that was andrea mitchell reporting. >>> as most people focus on susan rice and john kerry as the frontrunners for the secretary of state job, a new report suggest that's former republican senator chuck hagel is also vetted by the white house for a potential security post. >>> overseas, egyptian president mohamed morsi is expected to call for unity while addressing his nation today. tension still very high after he issued an edict that will give him sweeping power above the reach of judicial review until a new constitution is adopted. they're rushing to finish a new draft of the constitution that could see a vote as early as today. but with protesters continuing to clash with riot police, a rushed constitution by the islamist dominated assembly may make matters worse. >>> well now to business. according to the latest report from the federal reserve, the u.s. economy grew at a "measured pa pace" over the past two months with rises in hiring and consumer spending. let's go live to lo
dole, and certainly john mccain. last night i spent hours be reading warren's memorir " combat." i found out he was a great judge of character. on senator mitchell, he said, " george could under the most partisan statements and still sound as innocent as a choir boy." [laughter] he said, he is such a man of intelligence and charm, i could disagree with him and still be his friend. on senator biden, "joe was smart, young, ambitious, disorganized, and bursting with energy and enthusiasm." i david souter, he said something -- each of us have spoken at the podium about warren. he said, "david is my friend. i trust him. i respect him. i like him. he made me think, reflect, and laugh. i think all of us would say the same thing about warren today. he made us think and reflect and laugh. one final thing about his humor -- senator baker was here today. both warren and i voted for a sale. i received a great deal of hate mail because of my name. i'm half irish and half jewish. i am the only one who can be put on the israeli border and be shot from both sides. [laughter] i was getting all of t
is nothing new. four years ago it was then-president-elect obama and john mccain. >> i think that's a -- sends a great message to the american people. these two men were involved in a very bitter election for to be president of the united states. i think it speaks well of both of them to sit down and have lunch. >> reporter: earlier in the day the former gop nominee met with his former running mate paul ryan where an aide to the congressman said he had a constructive and positive conversation with mitt romney this morning. in addition to sharing updates from their families and reflections from the campaign, their forward looking conversation focused on resolving the critical fiscal and economic challenges ahead. translation, fiscal cliff. it's a challenge romney might have faced had he won. but as one of his strategists said on cbs, mistakes were made. >> i think we should have done a better job reaching out to women voters, the governor has a great record on women's issues. we should have done a better job articulating that record. and we should have done a better job reaching ou
-to-face with rice yesterday republican senators john mccain and lindsey graham and kelly ayotte announced they were more troubled than ever. >> i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of a contentious presidential election campaign. >> eliot: but president obama stood up for rice today during his first post-election cabinet meeting when asked about the ambassador's reception on the hill. >> obama: sue an rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she's done at the usun. >> joining me now is pj crowley who served under both presidents clinton and obama. he's now a professor at george washington university. thanks for your wisdom. >> hi, eliot. >> eliot: the reception that ambassador rice is getting on the hill is almost unprecedented unprecedented. i don't remember an u.s. diplomat being roughed up this way, is there a historical metaphor for this? >> not recently. i think in terms of the senate interfering, if you want to say that, you have to go back to john tower in 1989. i mean, politics is a c
was a spontaneous reaction to an anti-muslim video, some trouble-making clown made out in california. ignoring john mccain and his ail argue evidence it was an organized act of terrorism. not so says the president. his u.n. ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she accountable for going on national television knowing she can't tell the whole truth because it's classified? let's begin with senator susan collins, republican of maine. i guess it's the toughest question in the world, senator, and that is, do you believe that susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, knowingly covered up a breach of national security? >> well, let me say this, chris, our purpose is to
day for one of the chief messengers, susan rice. just a day after iraqi session with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte, she met with another republican senator, susan collins of maine. >> i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of the contentious presidential election campaign, by agreeing to go on the sunday shows, to present the administration's position. >> this is what she is talking about, one of several appearances ambassador rice made five days after the consulate killings. >> our current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was in fact, initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo. what we think, then, transpired in benghazi is the extremist elements came to the consulate, as this was unfolding. >> notice the phrase "extremist elements." we since learned that ambassador rice was speaking to talking points, regarding jihadist groups, including a local al-qaeda affiliate. the intelligence community was said to have made the edit. m
. there is a meeting between president obama and senator john mccain. there are a few photos like this but it is an interesting lunch. we're not going to see it though. if we see it it will be an official photo release. we won't get a camera in the room. we know what it isn't. it isn't public. it is not an offer a cabinet post. jay carney made that clear and it is not a beer summit. >> bill: it could be an o'doul summit. >> or a milk sum et. -- summit. >> the president said both on election night and then at a press conference a week later he wanted to talk to mitt romney saying that he thought he had some good ideas saying that maybe his of his management experience running the salt lake city could be applied to streamlining the federal government. >> bill: i heard the president say that. i thought he was just sort of making nice, right? but then he for actually followed through and invited him to lunch. >> mitt romney got a lot of applause for the way he handled the salt lake city olympics. he turned a wre
with john mccain in 2008. bush and clinton in '92. bush and dukakis in '88. carter and reagan in 198. oddly enough, though, bob there was one loser we couldn't find. turns out mondale, '84, lost to reagan. no pictures. what happened? >> bob: we didn't like to menu dand sided not to go. we expected an invitation and never got one. we did. >> eric: c'mon. >> eric: never got an invitation. i went through every president in 1980 -- >> bob: you think we snuck in the backdoor? we would have gone and got a picture. >> eric: i saw reagan and carter. >> bob: what do you think happen? >> brian: i hear they should have got together but reagan never liked carter. >> bob: never. >> brian: that stayed true. cart and ford got to be good friends but not until reagan was in office. >> eric: what do you think? would you love to be a fly on the wall? >> dana: they invited him to the office to have a lunch there. afterwards i was nosey, what was it like? what did you talk about? he said everybody asked about, talked about what it was like to raise children in the public eye. president obama was most concerned
it will be awkward. in 2008, john mccain and president obama had a similar lunch and you see how that took us. been perhaps the sharpest critic of barack obama since then. so i don't see them as emerging as very close friends. the second point -- >> in modern times, mitt has not returned to washington for a job. so mitt romney went home whereas other presidential losers have gone back to d.c. to go back to work like a mccain. >> i agree, but it doesn't necessarily mean -- i'm not sure the lunch will help the relationship. it seems to have been worse after the election than before in some ways. the other thing is it would be useful for obama if mitt romney had any pull with actual rops. it's not clear to me if mitt romney endorsed the fiscal cliff deal whether that would make any difference with a sorry. republicans don't really care what mitt romney thinks at this point. so i'm not sure if he has any pull that will make a difference after this meeting even if he and barack obama do become allies. >> do you have expectations? >> it may be a case of keep your trends close and your enemies closer. but
, none of it is making progress on these talks. >> well, i do think we shouldn't listen to john mccain and we should agree to torture and torture these government officials. they locked themselves back in a room in the summer of 2011 and did nothing. we report as if this fiscal cliff were a bruce willis movie, an ast troid coming from outer space unexpectedly. this fiscal cliff was deliberately put in place. >> by these guys. >> by these people. >> on their watch. >> you hear harry reid go up there. the senate has been incapable of passing a budget for several years. >> four years. >> i'm not talking about the senate passing a budget and the house agreeing and the president sign. just that one chamber. >> you don't sound like you're hopeful they're going to get a deal done any time soon. >> i think the market is being complacent. i think there likely will be a deal before the super bowl in february. i'd say most likely. but those talks will break down before there's a deal. i'm not sure this market is prepared for a breakdown. >> christian, what about that? clearly, the market is not p
're worth $250 billion. >> no, but john mccain still had his senate seat. mitt romney didn't carry massachusetts, california, or his home state and there's no such thing as a romney republic anymore. he doesn't have any power. so he's coming today obama looked good because he's sticking out his hand and shows a spirit of bipartisanship that he's trying to create throughout all of this gridlock. >> matt, are they still stunned? i have to tell you, i watch this stuff from 7:00 until midnight. i'm constantly trying to figure this thing out. i thought it was much more pro-obama. he won a very solid victory and mandate. are they still stunned by that? >> yeah. in some respects, they are, to grapple with what happened and how their expectations got so high. >> stu stevens thinks that. we're all trying to figure that out. what happened here? >> i think there is a bit of that. and rahm himself, the data guy, going through the numbers trying to figure out what happened himself. i think he will be doing that for a while. i think he still thinks about this an awful lot. >> doug brinkley, auth
and some are thinking would that be so bad maybe not. >> it is very known republicans. john mccain and peter king who is a friend on the show . congressman king and i went to college and law school together. he an undergraduate when i am in law school in notre dame . jeff flake also a friend of the show and bob corker. they promised a month ago not to vote to raise taxings under any circumstances. guess what they learned. they learned a lesson to barack obama. give away the people's money and they will vote for you. rather than to shrink the government and lower entitlement and put the government back in the confines of the constitution and let hard working americans to keep their money they will vote to raise taxings. they should remember a very famous pledge made by a very famous and well liked republican. do ow remember this. read my lipps. no new taxes . and when he violated that pledge. the voters threw him out of the white house. >> steve: but at this stage in the negotiations, john boehner made it clear. he will not raise the tax rates. he's looking at other way to raise rev
that they just bury the hatchet. look at john mccain and president obama, and who has been one of his fiercest critics, despite they had a meeting after the election. >> didn't work out so well. maybe it's more for the american people just to see these two guys shake hands and move on. >> sure. i think there's value to that. i think there's value in the speeches you just played a little bit about on election night, and i think there is value in a democracy to see two people who are from different parties who have very different ideas, who had a hard fault election sit down and have lunch together. i think in and of itself the lunch can be a great signal. i just don't think we can sort of see some pathway to harmony through it. >> not yet. okay. all right. candy, thank you. good too to see you, as always. >> good to see you. >> the u.s. embassy in egypt is now shut down. violence between protesters and police has blocked roads around the compound in central cairo. the protesters, they are actually not targeting the embassy. they have been demonstrating, however, for a week. there has been some
writes, steph, a lot of people talking about john mccain saying that susan rice is not very smart. yeah stanford rhodes scholar. mccain finished bottom fifth in his class. how does he get to call susan rice not smart? i think he owes the taxpayers for the plane he lost and the five he lost during training. yeah. >> yikes. >> stephanie: you know he's the one who said his nickname was mcnasty. it's because he's getting old and bitter? no he's always been mean and nasty. >> his nickname should have been crash. lost five planes in training and he brought on sarah palin. >> stephanie: there is that his version of fart. democratsered areled to fight for rights, and democratic senate aide said people are happy to fight for her. this is getting people's back up up. this is ridiculous. she's obviously qualified. karl frisch was saying before the break, susan rice, they're saying this is a blow. she's expressing some concerns that she's a moderate. that was not a stretch that she blamed her for the 1990 bombing embassy in kenya when she was in the clinton administration. she said she could not b
that mitt romney won every group of voters making over $50,000 a year and that he did better than john mccain among white voters. but didn't you under estimate the size of the minority vote? 2004 in the bush campaign where there was a sharp divide between those who thought did a lobe they were able to turn out those that thought that the president had done a successful job. i think that they spoke, their messaging spoke to them, and i think that the images of the president in the storm were very helpful to them. it reminded them of what they liked about the president. they were successful at it. >> stuart, let me get in one point here. so, if you had this election to do over, even though george bush would say i don't do do-overs -- if you had the election to do over, what is the one mistake that you as adviser to the candidate and the candidate made in this election? what might have made prromney president? >> it's a great question, a tough question. we talked about it a lot. i think we should have done a better job reaching out to women voters. the governor has a great record on women's issu
power players supporting this? senators tom harkin, the dem cat -- democrat from iowa, john mccain from arizona pote in favor of this because their respective states, arizona rich with copper, iowa rich with metals. they would benefit from this. and here's the bottom line, if we do this -- switch over to the dollar coin -- we might get rid of the penny altogether. and that would be good, megyn, because the penny now costs more to produce than it's worth, about a penny and a half to produce a penny. not really logical. megyn: why didn't people like the dollar coin, the sacajawea? >> reporter: right, on the back, because the presidents kept switching. too heavy. too bulky. you had ten bucks in your pocket, you know, you hate having change in your pocket, that was the big complaint, just too heavy. megyn: i liked it. it felt like more than a dollar, you know? it felt like i could use it for, i don't know, something real. [laughter] >> reporter: well -- megyn: i guess i was in the minority. so we'll see whether there's any objection from george washington although abraham lincoln although t
to be against immigration nominated john mccain. so it's not only been where the party actually has been electing people, it's where its policies are. if you want free market economics you want talent and youth coming to this country. if you're a national security conservative, why is the united states going to run the world or be very important and powerful in the world in 100 years and japan isn't? because one, they forget to have kids and they don't do immigration. china, same thing. and europe the same thing. immigration is our competitive advantage against the rest of the world as an economic power, a military power. >> so what other wounds would you look at? >> that's one piece. i think we need to look at -- and our candidates. we ran a candidate, romney, who was a great guy much he's not what the 86% of obama's ads said about him. but how do you make the case of how romney would govern when he was governor of massachusetts for four years, pre-tea party. >> let's stipulate romney was a bad candidate. how would you get a better one? >> there are 30 republican governors. 24 of them h
. remember this moment, president elect obama and john mccain just a couple weeks after the '08 election?
: on the other hand, senator mccain says, john kerry came within a whisker of being president of the united states, angela. senator mccain went on to say this, i would love to hear him make necessary case. i don't have anything in thinks background like the tragedy in gaziano that would make me carefully examine the situation. >> it is doing susan rice. if kerry is the nominee he would have smooth sailing through. in washington these are friends behind the scenes. if susan rice is nominee we'll have partisan politics. we have the liberal mainstream media already bashing republicans, some calling them racists and sexist in the fact they won't support susan rise because the fact she is a black woman. it is not about race. it is about benghazi. she went on the air and she lied. now she is trying to backpedal and not helping her case at all. >> but what i will say, you had condoleezza rice, she was confirmed by the senate 85-13. and what democrats said, this is at a time where she was under a lot of scrutiny for the war, bringing us into a war we didn't feel we had reason to be there -- >> she
fellow republicans in the room to quote john mccain it's always darkest before it's completely black. but as we look at this election, there's a couple of things that i think are astounding to focus on. the last presidential candidate who achieved 60% of the white vote in the country was bush and he received over 400 electoral votes 24 years ago. in the 2004 bush campaign we received 44% of the latino vote in the electorate. we were having discussions in the white house in 2005 that we were within the territory that we were able to get to majority status with latino voters in the country. and if you look at the election results where mitt romney is below 30%, you can really see the republican's party deliberate strategy to annual nies paying off. and so when we look at as a party and we look at the demographic changes in the country in the west but also give consideration to the fact that some of the fastest growing latino states are north carolina and ohio and not necessarily the southwest border states and states in the rocky mountain west. we also have to look in this election at
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